‘Governments Are Spying on the People Who Bring Us the News’

Janine Jackson interviewed Electronic Frontier Foundation’s Cindy Cohn about Pegasus spyware for the July 31, 2021 episode of CounterSpin.

“We all rely on journalists’ ability to find out what’s going on, especially in ways that governments don’t like, to be an informed populace,” Cindy Cohn said. "I think it’s not an overstatement to say the question of self-governance turns on whether the current people in power can hide from us the truth about what’s going on in the world."

"How do we elect the right people if the people in power right now are making...